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A Delta flight was forced to make an emergency landing when one of the plane's engines failed

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CNN)Passengers were praying and even tried to text family members moments before a Delta Air Lines flight was forced to make an emergency landing in North Carolina. "After we heard the boom we just saw all this smoke come up into the cabin, and that's when we really started freaking out," passenger Avery Porch told CNN affiliate WMAR. "It started slowing down a little bit, it started getting hot (and) air cut off." Nearly 150 passengers on Delta Flight 1425 were headed… (www.cnn.com) 更多...

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Relics
Relics 25
Big things to take away from this incident: Nobody was hurt and the pilots did a great job on diverting and landing safely.
SteveCutchen
Steve Cutchen -1
Outcome bias: the tendency to evaluate prior decisions according to whether the outcome was good or bad.
sgbelverta
sharon bias 19
This article implied that pilots don't like flying the MD80-MD88 because they're old, noisy, and don't have a lot of technology. https://gizmodo.com/video-captures-delta-airlines-md-88-engine-failing-mid-1836232799/amp From everything I've read here, most commercial pilots liked the MD80-88 because they could be a pilot. All that technology is what took down the two 737Max planes. When pilots can be pilots, good things happen.
sparkie624
sparkie624 7
I agree... when pilots stop being pilots and start being supervisors... That is when the problem takes over.... Most of the problems today in the Airline industry are the result of bad supervision!
rawhp1
Bryan Jensen 6
For those that may think airline pilots are overpaid. When emergencies occur they earn every penny.
JohnEntwistle
Not a problem for commercial pilots who regularly train in simulators for such events . Had a similar experience some years ago when starboard engine had to be shut down after a horrible grinding noise & flames appeared from the engine exhaust. Returned to departure airport for an emergency landing & the smoothest of touchdowns . Emergency landing procedures were well managed by cabin crew with no panic on board. Captain returned on relief plane with the passengers & circulated through the cabin explaining what happened . Good PR . His only comment when congratulated on the smoothest of landings with only one engine was " Well sir , we do train regularly for such events but it does concentrate the mind " !!
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 10
Sorry for the alarmist headline and story, but the video is actually very interesting and well worth watching.
btweston
btweston 4
I’m sure quite a few people found this event to be quite alarming.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Especially when you are on the Aft Row... In this case, Aisle "A"! LOL
animal2010
Steve Ortiz 2
Here i was snickering as i read the story, thinking "over dramatizing events just like those cheap reality shows". Planes are designed to stay flying with only one engine working. Praying for my life? No, I'd be praying the pilots were current with their ratings and training.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
They are supposed to, and like you said... "...the pilots were current..." - Keep in mind that the 2nd engine only guarantees you get to the crash site.... It is up to the crew to give you better odds!
patpylot
patrick baker 9
pardon me: this aircraft was built in california, as were several thousand others of its type, same proper response by the two, repeat two pilots up front remembering simulator training, plus many thousands of hours between the pilots, and all ended well there...
boughbw
Brian Bough 6
I had a memorable trip out of Albuquerque where our AA MD-80 (mostly the same plane as is here) lost an engine on take-off to FOD. All the same things happened: the engine sounded like a giant, unbalanced washing machine. Smoke was pulled into the cabin from the bleed air system. We had a very slow lift-off after the problem occurred. It was right at V1 rotate. We leveled-off about 50 feet up, then slowly started to ascend.

The pilots turned-off the engine, then tried re-starting, to no avail. We circled around and landed, greeted by the fire brigade. The landing was heavy and uneven, with only one engine/reverser being used. After the fire team cleared us, we returned to the gate.

As we deplaned, the pilots looked extremely pissed-off. One seemed to be speaking with notable directness to what appeared to be an airport official. I rebooked and was on my way. The plane was still parked at the West end of the airport two days later when I returned.

I just had the sneaky feeling something was wrong when an American Airlines flight pushed-back 10 minutes ahead of schedule.

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The upshot that is actually relevant here is that I learned from speaking with another AA pilot sometime later that Albuquerque is the simulator location they use to practice this kind of failure: hot and high, they know that if they can handle a simulated failure on take-off from ABQ, they can handle it anywhere. He said they practice engine loss regularly at all phases of flight. That made me feel better about the whole situation. Though I was not scared, I was concerned in the incident when I was on the plane. I know what these people went through at altitude had to be unnerving. But it really is all about training. People are quite safe with the level of professionalism these aviators have.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
Smoke in the Cabin... you think... I mean really.... When there is fire in the front of the engine, it is going to get into the Bleed system... No way to stop that one... It would be more surprising if there was not smoke in the cabin...
watkinssusan
pictures shown last night on the news were frightening..flight attendant telling people to prepare for an emergency landing,heads down,glasses off ,as well as photos of the engine itself taken by a passenger who had a wing window seat! so glad they were able to land safely!
mikehe
The FAs did exactly what was required - namely their primary role on a passenger aeroplane, preparing for an emergency and getting the self-loading cargo through the trauma and out to safety.

This sounds like a classic case of "everything worked out in the end", but nowadays we have some smartphone wielding "Turkey-Lurkey" who thinks the sky is about to fall in.

I still believe in the UK Royal Air Force approach: "If you walk away from it, it was a good landing."
craigbell1941
Craig Bell 2
If these passengers ever took off in a DC9-100, at Stapleton Field, in July back in the day they would trade it for an MD-88 any time.
scottmnathan
scottmnathan 2
Pilots are often underpaid and deserve more respect; the industry has gone sideways with obnoxious passengers taking the entire process of flight for granted. Great work by a well experienced crew who can fly these planes in any conditions.
airplane4349
I made a typo in my comment. I meant to say that I cannot bend my neck. The word "bend" got left out. Sorry about that.
airplane4349
Anyone know what you do if you are unable to put your head down? I'd be unable to due to my medical condition. I cannot my neck. Any suggestions here?
animal2010
Steve Ortiz 2
Putting your head down is not a rule. Various airlines have variations on emergency procedures but they all amount to keeping you safe. In NASA videos of airplane crashes they demonstrated the need to protect your head, whether by bending forward and tilting your head down between your knees or just bending over and covering your head with your arms - either method is practical. If you have a pillow, even resting your head on that is more advisable than just sitting upright like we do riding in a car.
Sitting upright invites whiplash, protecting your head protects you from suffering from a severe concussion from crashing into the seat ahead of you during the crash.
ljcotnoir
Leo Cotnoir -4
Has anyone else noticed that when there is an engine failure on an airliner it is most likely a PW JT-8D? Maybe it is time to park the planes with them.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
No... I have not noticed that... JT8D Engines will take more abuse than any Fan Engine out there... The JT8D can with stand more abuse that almost any jet engine out there... Keep in mind they are not manufactured any longer, but are just being rebuilt.... You may want to research your facts... you will see that the JT8D's have logged many many more hours than CFM's... They powered the 737, 727, DC9's, MD-80's... They were first used in 1960... The CFM56's have only been out since the 70's... Did you ever see a JT8D flame out due to too much water... ever see what happens on a good CFM with a compressor stall...

I think you are barking up the wrong tree... I have many many many years working on both JT8D's and almost every other CFM engine out there....
rboddy91
Rich Boddy 4
You should speak less and think more. And then still continue to speak less.
captrags80
Leo, I flew the DC-9 / MD-80 for 37 years - approximately 20,000 flight hours. NEVER had an engine fail - never a precautionary shut down. Think about those numbers for a minute.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
I remember one in flight shutdown on a JT8D... On a 737-200... I took the discrepancy and repaired the aircraft.... The captain told me that he was indicating low oil pressure, but the Oil Pressure Light never came on. He said he had an FAA Inspector riding jump seat and was making a big deal out of it so he shut it down out of an abundance of caution... I replaced the Oil Pressure sensor, Ran the engine, checked good and sent him on his way... Without the FAA Inspector.. LOL!
rawhp1
Bryan Jensen 2
Ahh. Truth. Music to the ears.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Ahh... I remember when the Hush Kits came out.... LOL.. The joke was we just installed a Hush Kit and you could bearly hear it... LOL!
boughbw
Brian Bough 1
It's usually a Rolls Royce on an A380.
The more famous, uncontained failure recently was a CFM-56 on a Southwest 737.
Should we park these planes as well?

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MikeMohle
Mike Mohle 3
On the wing?
Relics
Relics 5
The engine is mounted towards the back of the fuselage. Behind the wings.
MikeMohle
Mike Mohle 2
Yes that what how I was wondering what the wing in the comment above was referring to!
Relics
Relics 1
Sorry about that, didn’t see your comment was linked towards his. Apologies!
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Well... technically it is a wing... Officially it is called a "Stub Wing" so either way, it is technically correct! Even though a little Nit Picking!
aecsdr
Chris DiCenso 1
Actually the engine is mounted on an "Engine Pylon" in the DC9 and MD80 series aircraft.
A "Stub Wing" is a term usually used to identify an attachment to the fuselage of a helicopter to which ordnance or aux fuel tanks are mounted.
picturetaker
This was an MD88.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/delta-flight-1425-engine-failed-videos/

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