175 with 2 pax? Could the trim of been misset from the start? Flew in fully loaded - missed calculations. On 145 once with 4 pax, pilot asked us to all sit at the back for takeoff - move to our seats at cruise. 145 very different form the 175 for GC but still?
OK I had only read the article - just watched the atc.. I’m wrong looks like a runaway trim for sure.. absolute great job from atc and crew.. some tense moments. God blesem
I'm not a pilot just a passenger since 1972. From the ATC recording it sounds like the pilot did a great job of flying the air craft. What ever caused the problem, the recovery is what matters. Six souls landed safely
this is why I LOVE the 737.... a super easy aircraft to fly in a trim runaway situation. Reach down and push down the stab trim cutout switches, pull out the manual trim handles and then start rolling up the car window! lol :)
The pilots did exactly what they were supposed to do, fly the plane. They recognized that they had the issue, swapped who was flying and shut off the trim system to fly it in direct mode. Good job.
Wow where is the outcry about those loosing control of the trim? Just like Boeing but no lets ground them. Should have been an easy deal, disconnect electric trim and use manual like they could have done with Boeing on one where they had throttles full until it hit the ground. DUH and they couldn't use manual because of the speed.
E175 Aircraft don't have the MCAS system. The pilots did a fantastic job recovering. Pitch trim runaway right after rotation is one of the worst things that can happen. The MAX crashed due to pilot error, not pitch trim runaway right after takeoff. To even compare this to what happened to the MAX is just ridiculous.
Because any failure of the MCAS system would be recognized by the flight crew as a runaway trim.. bottom line. Had they fully followed the memory items and stuck with it.. read the Lion Air report in full. You will see why despite the moves by Boeing, pilot error played a big part. Same plane, previous flight, had same issues and survived as the check pilot instituted the runaway trim procedure - then it went unreported to maintenxe so the pitot tube was not replaced, and when it happened again - the flight crew for whatever reason did not follow the procedure fully and we know the result. The PIC of that flight made many errors in the moment.. all in the report
You should read the Lion air crash report. Pilot mistakes are only one part of the cause of the crash. MCAS' poor design was a significant contributor as well.
Was it a trim runaway? Or did the pilots forget to reset the trim after landing! Should have caught it on the checklist and there should have been an out of range warning when they pushed the power up. But, stranger things have happened
It's not likely the trim was out of the takeoff range or they would have had a warning as soon as the throttles were moved to the TO position. The fact they had to switch to alternate trim means the primary trim probably went tits up at the worst time.
Runaway trim for sure. Watch video. To have shut down systems 1&2 and be flying in direct mode.. also climbing to 14000 feet - definitely a fault of some kind.