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122 American Flights Cancelled as PSA Regional Fleet Grounded

提交时间：7 个月以前

The FAA has grounded most aircraft of U.S. regional carrier PSA Airlines. PSA is a wholly-owned subsidiary of American Airlines and operates flights under the American Eagle banner. The grounding is related to a maintenance issue with the airline's fleet. The airline currently operates 130 aircraft, all CRJ-700s and CRJ900s. (airlinegeeks.com) 更多...

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Allen Irons 7 个月以前 9

My niece is an FA for them. She is stuck 500 miles from home. She is having to rent a car to get home. Do you think that she should have to do that on her own coin? What should the airline be doing for stuck crew?

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mary susan watkins 7 个月以前 7

allen..if it is indeed a "small" issue but affects the whole fleet,she shouldnt be "grounded" for long..also,the airlines can,if its necessary,get your niece a seat on another carrier,regional or otherwise,to get home, and they will pay for it..union rules to stoppages and cancellations and delays apply to crew members,and layovers or being grounded are included in those rule swith a carrier..

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Patrick Keohane 7 个月以前 9

The shutdown is temporary and since she's a FA on a company mandated layover, she should still be on per diem and will be recalled at the appropriate time. Unless she has to return home for personal reasons, then it makes sense that she would have to incur the personal expense. Having a job that takes you away from home comes with the caveat that there are situations that sometimes arise that would require an unplanned layover that differs from what is scheduled.

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Jaina Brown 7 个月以前 8

AA should fly her home on another carrier. They do have other aircraft that are not in PSA's fleet.

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srobak 7 个月以前 7

you are aware that crew from one airline fly jump/excess on others quite routinely, right?

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Scott Campbell 7 个月以前 2

I'll give her ticket if you contact me

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Deborah Lipsitz 7 个月以前 5

At last check (just now) the disruption from cancelled flights is now double the article's update just 5 hours ago. I wonder how this is likely to impact other regional carriers with similar aircraft in their fleets. The issue appears to be relatively minor from a repair time view, but serious enough for the airline to take a huge hit to resolve.

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linbb 7 个月以前 4

It must be serious and a sudden problem that showed up for them to do it. Others have not and accidends have happened good on them for doing so. Why risk pax thinking it might just be one or two.

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Silent Bob 7 个月以前 6

It appears to be a simple missed inspection of some bolts, not an everyday occurrence but can and does happen.

When it comes to airplanes and the FAA there are no levels of serious. Even the most mundane check must be done or the airplane is unairworthy. Light bulb burned out? Unairworthy, unless replaced or properly deferred according to procedure. So when an airline discovers even a minor discrepancy they can face big penalties from the FAA if they fail to disclose it and knowingly operate an "unairworthy" airplane.

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Jasper Buck 7 个月以前 -4

"It appears to be a simple missed inspection of some bolts..."

Three bolts associated with the nose wheel landing gear assembly not properly torqued I believe.

"When it comes to airplanes and the FAA there are no levels of serious."

Really? And you get your knowledge of the FAA and aircraft airworthiness requirements from where exactly?

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Brad Benson 7 个月以前 5

Captain Buck, despite your lengthy credentials, you seem to miss the point. I’d say Silent Bob pretty much nails it. With the FAA, things are black and white only. They don’t allow for a gray area.

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Jasper Buck 7 个月以前 -1

Have to disagree but what do I know? I suppose all those "gray areas" we wrote into the regulations, Operations Specifications, CDLs and MELs and ADs don't count. And I know of no burned out lightbulbs that would make an aircraft unairworthy. In fact the DC-9 MMEL permits a lot of lights to be inoperative. Read it here: https://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=M%20DC-9%20R39

To that end I would suggest the "Silent Bob" doesn't know what the heck he's talking about.

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Silent Bob 7 个月以前 3

Sigh. Did you not read the very next sentence after burned out lightbulb? “Unairworthy, unless replaced or properly deferred according to procedure”. I didn’t want to go into a dissertation on inoperative equipment, I was merely pointing out that in the eyes of the FAA an aircraft is either airworthy or unairworthy, there is no in between. Not everyone here posses the laundry list of credentials you profess to have, so I try to keep it simple but informative. Piss on me i guess for trying.

I’m quite sure I don’t know as much as you, and that’s just fine with me. My list isn’t as long or distinguished: ATP B737 LR45 SA227. Flight Instructor. Humble First Officer.

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sparkie624 7 个月以前 4

It was Missed inspections on the Nose Landing Gear Doors and it was a Self Disclosure!

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mary susan watkins 7 个月以前 2

this happened to american airlines fleet of md 80's several years back..an isuse that was small was found on more than one plane,so the whole fleet was grounded for a shor peeriod of time,flights were cancelled and passengers reaccomodated..itf its a "minor" issue,but it does require it to be fixed before a plane can fly,they have to ground ALL of the aircraft for inspection..better to be safe even if is a small thing becasu thos small thngs can grow into bigger ones!

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Jasper Buck 7 个月以前 2

Fact check. I believe you're referring to the March 2008 incident in which American grounded 80 MD-80s — out of a fleet of 204 — to check for compliance with certain wiring requirements. That's contrary to your statement that they "have to ground ALL of the aircraft for inspection" Most of them were back in the air the following day as I recall.

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IAOA 7 个月以前 1

PSA twitter says they are back flying again. That was quick!

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sparkie624 7 个月以前 4

It was just an inspection... Quick paperwork edit, do the inspection, back in service... It was only on the Nose Gear Doors, so I am guessing that if they had to do a gear swing, jack the nose, Pin the Mains... 3 minutes for a nose gear swing up and down... Easy Job! Big issue is having enough Nose Jacks in the system and they probably borrowed from other airlines... At a cost!

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linbb 7 个月以前 0

Does not say FAA the airline grounded them would be nice if Shek read the artical.

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sparkie624 7 个月以前 0

Over 200 flights on American Airlines' regional carrier canceled after temporary FAA grounding

A Related Article: PSA Airlines, one of American Airlines' largest operators of regional flights, has been "temporarily grounded" by the Federal Aviation Administration for an inspection issue on nearly all of its planes, according to an internal email obtained by CNN. -

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/psa-airlines-flights-canceled/index.html -

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john cook 7 个月以前 0

PSA the only way to fly

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Silent Bob 7 个月以前 3

Mr Hardy, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Jasper Buck 7 个月以前 -1

"I suspect lots of normal inspections are being ignored or dismissed as non flight safety critical especially on commuter level aircraft."

And you base that inane statement on what exactly?

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sparkie624 7 个月以前 4

Working in the Regionals... I do not agree with you... You do not skip scheduled inspections... Doesn't matter if it is an Air Filter, Potable Water, Engine, or Primary Flight Control. Your statement is way off!

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Robert Cowling 7 个月以前 1

No inspection should be missed, but maintenance and training are two areas where companies *have* skimped in the past. Even Southwest has been stung with that in the past.

Inspections should NEVER be ignored or skipped. Totally agree. Any airline that does that should be fined and have their certificate pulled, either for a certain time, or permanently. So what happened to Southwest? Friends in high places?

And Alaska, with the jack screws. It does happen. It shouldn't, but it has...

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