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Mon, Dec 12, 2011 NTSB Forwards Recommendations On Tailwind Landings To FAA

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The NTSB has issued a series of safety recommendations to the FAA in response to an incident in which an American Airlines B737 overran the end of the runway on landing in Kingston, Jamaica in December 2009. The aircraft landed approximately 4,000 feet down the 8,911-foot-long, wet runway with a 14-knot tailwind component and was unable to stop on the remaining runway length (www.aero-news.net) 更多...

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preacher1
preacher1 0
you are either there or not. to land close to halfway down a runway, knowing you have a tailwind, in those conditions, is ludicrous. that man needs further traing in the worst way or just a good dose of common sense. that being said, not sure what the parameters are but it kinda looks like at some point, the tower would have changed the runway if the tw was that strong
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
Agreed I mean I learned that on my 3rd lesson never to land halfway down a runway with tailwinds (unless your in a 150 then that's a different story) and also with the runway being wet in the first place you would think that the pilots would know better. Unfortunately common sense was clearly not with them and this happened.
canuck44
canuck44 0
Gee, you mean they are supposed to land somewhere near the white lines and there is no arrester cable...who knew?
HIZZHONER
Ed Wagner 0
I remember reading about this when it happened...a go-round would have been a much better bet...
biester
NO LANDING BRIEFING WAS DON......
n737er
Per www.b737.org.uk:
Max takeoff / landing tailwind component: 10kts (May be 15kts as customer option)
No tailwind component allowed on contaminated runways.

So AA must have the 15kt option, and a wet runway isn't contaminated? Also isn't an approach that will result in a touchdown outside the touchdown zone immediate grounds for a Go-Around at most if not all airlines? Landing with 14kts on the tail on a wet runway...very likely wasn't the wisest decision those pilots made that day...
linbb
linbb 0
And how much was left to land on ? Time for the flight crew to go find another job if thats the best they can do.
theschoolofchuck
If you are an inexperienced pilot, you say "hell no". If you are an experienced pilot, you say "hell no". If you are an experienced pilot with a major airline pressuring you to land on time and avoid delays, you say "uhh... ya, I can do it. I have 6000+ hrs flying everything from Cessna 150's to 757's. I've done Los Angeles to Hong Kong, I've done Argentina to New York, I've done Texas to Oklahoma. I've had an engine failure mid-flight, I had an engine failure on take off, I've landed at the minimums countless times, yeah, I'll get her down, business as usual...
preacher1
preacher1 0
Charles, unfortunately, you are so correct.
preacher1
preacher1 0
And the rest of the story is, when all turns out well, just another day, but when the results are as here, "WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY? At the best, it's a reprimand and more training, at worst, you're fired.
dba74m
dba74m -1
At worst, you're dead.
skyfly12
shawn white 0
Wonder why they have had engine failures mid-flight and on takeoff. Like you said that happens when under pressure from a cost cutting airline.
genethemarine
Gene spanos 0
The married pilots will land where they need to be ,
the single pilot - look out!
preacher1
preacher1 0
Well, that could be true also
tarbaby
phil gibson 0
Bottom line.....Poor judgement..decision making. There were two pilots up there. What the hell were they thinking!
ElliotCannon
Elliot Cannon 0
The monday morning quarter backing after something like this is always entertaining. Lots of experts out there.
tarbaby
phil gibson 0
Bottom line.....poor judgement....obviously! Nobody said anything about being an expert....chill out! This is just a forum of opinions and comments, not to be construed As a cause. Plus it's intertaining! Communication, that's all.
ElliotCannon
Elliot Cannon 0
Being an expert was a rhetorical comment. This is a forum of opinions and comments and I made mine. Chill out.
preacher1
preacher1 0
Got to agree. We have all been there. It ain't like he was in a new place. With a 14kt tailwind, anything can bite you in the butt.His only mistake was not throwing the coal to it and going around and we all know there can be 9 million reasons for that.
tarbaby
phil gibson 0
Wayne, well said. I agree. Pilots must be the Master of the machine! That machine will do whatever you tell it to do......right or wrong......a man has got to know his limitations!!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE!! :)
preacher1
preacher1 0
Ya'll too.:)
bdarnell
bdarnell 0
Kind of like landing at MDW.
preacher1
preacher1 0
You had better be on your game there whether in a 150 or 767
sadieee
s. j. drake 0
Ouch! Saving five minutes by going around, in hindsight, sure seems like a better option. curious how many times that crew, and others, successfully pulled It Off without incident.
tarbaby
phil gibson 0
It's what you would call a "Gotcha!" moment....a real long moment.....so this is what hydroplaning really feels like.....whoops!
preacher1
preacher1 0
more like OH $%^&!!!!!!!!!!!!

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