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PA-24 crash in Scottsdale, AZ

提交时间：6 年以前

PA-24 crashes on takeoff in Scottsdale, AZ. The police said the flight "crashed shortly after takeoff" and that none of the six people on the small plane survived. (www.cbsnews.com) 更多...

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jamescagney2000 6 年以前 2

https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/983715275127312385 - overhead view of crash site from this morning

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erisajd 6 年以前 2

put 250# in the rear seat while loading the front 2 and middle 2 will put you way after - and even outside - the rear CG range on the airplane. 6 people reported in the airplane - I'm thinking overloaded and with a rear CG - lost control right after rotation.

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WeatherWise 6 年以前 1

Per the pilots social media, earned Private rating just a short time ago and only recently purchased the aircraft. Registration Pending per FAA. Social media video of them boarding showed a "party atmosphere", I would imagination a lot of distractions at a crucial moment. I'm just basing this on what I saw, not criticizing.

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erisajd 6 年以前 2

I own a Comanche 260C. Just like this airplane. I can only imagine where the W&B ended up on this flight

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WeatherWise 6 年以前 1

Heard 50 seconds of audio between pilot and ground control. Radio was somewhat distorted but he seemed somewhat confused based on his exchanges with the controller.

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WeatherWise 6 年以前 1

Also apparently 3 years overdue on the annual.

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erisajd 6 年以前 1

I don't see that reported anywhere - I see where perhaps the aircraft paperwork on transfer was not completed - but there is no way to tell whether the aircraft is out of annual without seeing the log books

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Tom McIntosh 6 年以前 1

Sorry to hear of this crash. The last I knew, a PA-24 is a four-seater, NOT a six seater. If they had four people in the back seat, or two in the back and (God forbid) two in the luggage area, that plane was a) overloaded; and b) VERY tail heavy. That would explain the trajectory immediately. If that's what happened, shame on the pilot for taking off in this dynamic. He won't do it again.

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erisajd 6 年以前 1

A 260B or C model can have 6 seats.

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Tom McIntosh 6 年以前 1

Thanks for the heads-up. Although it COULD, should it? I'll mark my calendar to check the NTSB on this one. My guess is that the report will come back "grossly overloaded and out of CG envelope-aft of limits

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erisajd 6 年以前 1

Maybe you should read the other comments.

The B and C model have 6 seats in the TC.

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Kevin Keswick 6 年以前 1

One of the victims was a young model Mariah Coogan - here is her Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/mariahsunshiinee/?hl=en

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WeatherWise 6 年以前 1

Rather inappropriate and disrespectful post. This has what bearing on the cause of the crash? I could have posted social media links to 4 of the victims but is it really necessary?

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Tom McIntosh 6 年以前 2

Thanks! I couldn't agree more.

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