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A380 Price For Emirates: $234M USD

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They probably didn't mean to post this on the internet: "MSN 077 Limited ... has today acquired an Airbus A380-800 aircraft ... for the sum of US$234,000,000." (www.flightglobal.com) 更多...

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BenKFIT
Ben Lillie 0
Imagine the kind of house you could get with that kind of money
ATCguy1
ATCguy1 0
Only $234,000,000..think I will take two. What an ugly aircraft.
poison809
this like nothing for them
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
The market in the Middle East and Asia should support the A380 costs just fine. In Asia, airlines aren't worried so much as demand far outweighs supply. Therefore, what an airline can do with a $234m A380 would take two 787s to accomplish. Im no Airbus fan, but they beat Boeing to a solid market in Asia and Middle East.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
I don't think you'll ever find a US passenger carrier with this ac in their fleet...ever.
craig14
Craig Jones 0
Good to see good old american bias in these comments - nothing is ever any good unless it has "Made In America" stamped all over it! America killed Concord - how they would love to Kill the A380 - probably the best commercial aircraft on the planet.. Thr trouble with american fleets is that they are old and loss money - no wonder they cant afford it!
canuck44
canuck44 0
What a load of crap! This is roughly equivalent to the MSM that attribute any opposition to Obama's policies as racist. When you can't argue on the basis of logic, scream racist, bigot or anti-European.

There are two aspects...the engineering and technology which are not argued or mentioned in any of the posts except by those who have difficulty mustering a cohesive argument to the important part which relates entirely to the business model. The A380 may be a wonderful engineering feat, but it does not necessarily make sense to companies that A. do not possess well traveled long range routes and/or B. companies that hold adequate feeder and distribution networks at either end of those routes.

It will obviously make sense to a few companies, Qantas, Singapore and Emirates at the top of that list along with some other trans-Oceanic routes. China Southern is now wondering how to deploy the five they have ordered from a base near Hong Kong and while they consider it they use them Guangzhou to Beijing...only 1200 miles.

Boeing bet that HKG to LAS, DEN, DFW, IAH etc will be popular and take traffic from the A-380 HKG-LAX plus a connection. We do not know yet who will win the business argument. Supporting one concept over another has nothing to do with the technology, only the business concepts behind them. Until we do it is appropriate to confine the argument to the facts.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
Hell, US Airways, Delta, United, Spirit, USA3000.... all operate Airbus product. I don't see Made in America stamped on those.
charpini
yes they do and they are very happy customers
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
Yes sir... economics. If it makes money, they will buy it. I just think the A380 is too big for the US carriers . Korean uses it on the Inchon/Hong Kong route (relatively short hop for the 380). But they fill it to the brim each turn. I've been on a lot if international flights and, barring Cancun, each time for I departed the US on a half empty plane and returned on a jam packed plane. Not sure how that ratio keeps holding up. Seems to me though the A380 needs to be full in both directions to make sense financially. Load Factor will keep this plane out of the US fleets (till the Freighter version rolls out).
Lonewolf1507
Chris, the primary reason that Korean are full on that service is the number of seats on board, 407 (according to Seatguru.com. The other 3 main users, Emirates 489 and 517 in two different configurations, QANTAS 450 and Singapore 471. They are currently set for each airlines market model of passengers or range, the high density Emirates aircraft are used for shorter range sectors mainly to Europe.
FrenchDriver
J.J. Lasne 0
US passenger carriers cannot afford this kind of aircraft. It might be useful for the largest carriers - namely UPS and FedEx - when the A380 comes into the used aircraft market in 20 or 30 years. I see US passenger carriers buying more Boeings, including the 787 which will do just fine for long haul and/or intercontinental flights. As someone else wrote, the A380 aircraft is perfect for the Asian and Middle Eastern markets where demand is very high, investments in infrastructure, operations and equipment huge.
pecebe
Pedro Caceres 0
Who designed it? My god! Its obese. It look like flying whale.
Please do not pollute the skies anymore with aircrafts like the A380, birds get scared, pilots too.
FrenchDriver
J.J. Lasne 0
Estupido!
pecebe
Pedro Caceres 0
thank you.
pecebe
Pedro Caceres 0
´who designed it? Its a flying obese whale that will scare birds,children, and pollute the skies, (I mean visual pollution).Ugly.
canuck44
canuck44 0
It is not hard to see why the North American Airlines did not jump all over this aircraft. The cost of capitalization of this price over 12 years...assuming a generous 50% residual...is absolutely huge. The capital is being tied to a few high traffic routes necessitating adequate facilities at either end. There is almost no ability to redeploy the aircraft to alternate destinations once that service is established. In addition to the high capital costs, operating costs are only minimally better than the A340 series.

If the 787 concept is valid, then 250-290 passengers might well want to go to Oakland directly thereby taking passengers from a A380 load to SFO while a second service to Las Vegas would kill off much of the market for the A380 flying into LAX. If the 787 has 20% less operating cost as advertized it will kick butt once the A380 novelty wears off.

Investing in the 380 takes deep pockets which will need to be even deeper if the 787-9 is successful.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
John, I may have difficulty in grouping words into cohesive sentences, but I'm pretty sure I made the same point above... without resorting to insults to anyone's intelligence. In fact, I find my argument more efficient in that I didn't have to write a novella to get the point across.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
@John: first paragraph is right on the money though.
BIGDJB
BIGDJB 0
Give me a Boeing any day. The 747-400 777's and the new 787's are the only way to go.
charpini
no because we're chauvinistic! not surprisingly nothing good can ever be made outside the US no matter what, thatt's why our country goes down the drain, we are to d.. narrowminded
charpini
I am totally agreeing with you, up until this far Boeing has only produced the 787 with a lot of problems, why they were having fun when airbus was in trouble, how childish,in all that time that they knew they had a competitor that was building a unified series of aircraft like Airbus did they did nothing they were too cocky and thought nobody could beat them, now they revived a40 year old aircraft,wich doesn't meet the expectations then the revamping of the the 737 where's the spirit that Airbus has come on enough of this crap! also what John Donaldson is writing he omits that fact totally
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 0
Patrick, I think the general consensus is that Airbus beat Boeing to an important market niche in Asia and Middle East. However the route structures for US airlines will not support the A380 behemoth. No one in the US needs a 500-600 passenger plane when they can more efficiently operate a 787. I don't think the Made in America sentiment flies in the boardroom. Only operating costs.
charpini
you might be right Chris, thanks for your to the point reply, that's something that I don't know about you are better informed than I, time will only tell but isn't it so that we want less movements at the major hubs in the future so for every 380, two 787 I thought that was the whole reason to start this project, Boeing w/747-8 version, up until this far the airlines that operate this A380 are very happy with the results plus the fact that it draws a lot of new passengers, according to Lufthansa, who like the comfort of this plane, please reply

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