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Passenger Video Shows Terrifying Aborted Landing On Boeing 737

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A Boeing 737-200 had to abort a landing after heavily damaging its right wing. The impact was so harsh that it ripped off part of the wing and damaged a flap. The plane recovered at the last second, when it seemed that a fatal impact was imminent. Skip to minute 2:11 to see the moment of the landing. You will see the plane tilting heavily to the right, moving to the left of the runway as if it were being pushed by extreme crosswind. You can then see the bump when the wing hits the runway. (gizmodo.com) 更多...

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C172kid91
C172kid91 21
When I land I normally try to be lined up with the runway.
gruntusmc
So do I C172. It's easier that way, I has less pucker factor and it helps your career in the long run. This was a very elementary mistake made by student pilots. Perhaps the pilot was getting a lap dance at the time!
Adam24
Adam Dabek 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZFIsI2913g&feature=related here you can see how ligned up he was.
jbermo
jbermo 6
Yeah -I would say it was pretty ugly - the right engine was well left of the centerline, in fact it was almost left of the left "piano bar" How much more of a bank would it have taken to cartwheel the airplane, another 03 degrees?
gbpack170
Jeremy Duvall 6
That has to be the worst approach I have ever seen. Cripes, I am just a Private pilot and I am sure I could do way better than that. Maybe I will send them my resume..LOL
AviatorLEO
AviatorLEO 2
Perhaps, after that little incident, there's a newly open position for you at the airline ;) Wishing you well in your interview
distar97
Dennis Harper 1
I learned early on a simple rule: A Good Approach = A Good Landing
jkarides96
Good landing: Walk Away. Real-good landing: Re-Use plane.
crk112
crk112 4
Unbelievable... I'm sure he knew well in advance that this landing was not going well.. wonder why he kept with it.
marksroberts61
Mark Roberts 4
There's an interesting analysis video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZFIsI2913g&feature=related take a look
marksroberts61
Mark Roberts 3
Of course it helps if you can work through a little Spanish
jaymd123
Jason Dopson 2
I saw that as well. Based on the airport video linked below this seems pretty accurate.
jmilazzo
joe milazzo 3
The weather was good? REALLY? Looks like he was performing a circling maneuver in IMC conditions.
jetjoktoo
Ken Nash 2
I totally agree! There is no way this should have been a visual approach. Notice also the sun appers to be on the nose which would obscure the runway through the obvious low scattered layer.
altstiff
Al Stiff 1
Agreed, you can clearly see the glare off the low layer in the video.
scardoso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAGAzvNi594&feature=related
Very poor quality, but you can see just how tilted it was at a certain point. Almost full belly is visible.
Isha
Isia Maria 6
Wow. Viewed from the outside it does live up to the word terrifying.
C172kid91
C172kid91 6
Yeah that definitely looks a lot worse than it did from inside.
ArthurNetteler
The people on the ground thought they were going DOWN!!!
crk112
crk112 1
Gives us some better views of the local weather as well... low broken clouds!!
Doobs
Dee Lowry 3
Obviously, the pilot was not lined up and it appears that he/she used aileron to correct the situation. Bad idea! The damage tells the story. They overcorrected to make things worse. I say... no line up...no control...no land! Go around.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 2
All US airlines have a "stabilized approach criteria" that should be used. I know many times we fudged it a little. Basically, below 1,000 feet AGL all you do is fly and land--no checklists, all configured and lined up. Yeh, right.
preacher1
preacher1 1
You did say U.S. Airlines, of which this was not.lol. As I told somebody else here, even though he was in IMC, it looks like he saw a break and just tried to lay it in and missed it bad. He went Way around so I figure he caught the marker to come back in on as his landing was normal. He probably wasn't even aware of that wing damage.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Agreed.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 3
So typical, Tom. Russians never give high marks! Lol
ArthurNetteler
In almost 35 years in the Cockpit I have NEVER had a landing THIS SCREWED UP. I'm afraid this is going to be the quality of the Pilot in cockpits in the near future!
preacher1
preacher1 4
Unfortunately, you are probably correct. It almost looks like that he had the runway and was just going to lay it in VFR but then the fog or whatever got him as he was coming around, but unless he just got totally disoriented, even that wouldn't account for the lineup and wing scrape. It's a testament to the 737 to hold togethher like that and make a go around. As the 2nd try was normal, I'll bet he found the marker on that one and followed it down as he went W-A-A-Y around. They probably had to replace at least one of those cockpit seats to get the pucker out,LOL
ArthurNetteler
No FOG, watch the other videos here that show it from different angles. The visibility was at least 2 miles. Just a Pilot that thought he/she was a HOTSHOT!
jclark12345
jclark12345 -1
I don't think its fair for you to judge the next generation of pilots in a negative manner like that, especially since the fact that this incident occurred in South America.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
What's the location have to do with it???
JetMech24
JetMech24 2
Perhaps not very good training due to cost?
jclark12345
jclark12345 -1
everything.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
Why don't you expand on your one word answer?
bashdan
bashdan 4
Nothing more than very poor runway alignment. A case of the "Get-There" syndrome. He/She should be grounded until they can show some sort of proficiency in handling an a/c with souls on board!
...Just my 2.5 cents.
Av8nut
Don't you just love it when passengers and journalists all-of-a-sudden become aviation experts?
raythompson
ray thompson 2
Sure looks like some fog in the area to me - combined with sun glare, could have been a problem.
By the time he was on the runway he was way out of shape - the decision should have been made to go around earlier???
kea001
Tom Kearney 2
Nice recovery from a Single Lutz but, as usual, the Russian judge gives low marks for presentation..
4.5|4.2|3.5|4.5|2.5|3.0|
panam1971
panam1971 1
The newest Olympic event... "Landing Acrobatics"
preacher1
preacher1 0
almenae
almenae 1
Wow. That was scary. Student pilots indeed.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Thanx "preacher1". Note well taken.
capnjohn767
John Roberts 1
ouch...is that wing repair gonna come out of his paycheck?
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Peter, I hate to think of what could have happened if they didn't go around. The visual I'm getting is...a tipped wing making contact on the pavement and I see a mini UAL Flight 232 all over again.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Agreed. We are all "Armchair Pilots"!
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Once again..."Common Sense"! I find it hard to believe that a pilot would wait that long to pull up and go around! When things don't look right..."Go Around"! He was too low to make any corrections.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Yes Stefan. Aircraft are forgiving in many situations. Just look at Aloha flight 243. B-737 flying from Hilo to Honolulu. The roof ruptured resulting in a explosive decompression. The decompression ripped off the large section of the roof. Do to the many cycles that airplane was subjected to with humid weather conditions, the fusalage gave way. Boeing alerted the airline of the inevitable problem but unfortunately Aloha's maintenance did not address the problem in time. Result...you have one Flight Attendant blown out and lost at sea and several passengers injured. The amazing thing is, is that 737, maintained it's airworthiness with half of it's roof torn off! That says a lot about the quality and workmanship of Boeing Aircraft!
mhlansdell00
Mark Lansdell 1
Y'all see an awful lot from an over wing passenger passenger window. I could see the corrections looking at the runway markings but couldn't tell the AC was damaged. Some of you must be looking at another video.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I'm like you. Nothing in the video showed it being damaged. All the photos were after the fact.
ArthurNetteler
Look at the other videos posted on here. One is from the Terminal showing the entire belly of the craft.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Even if the guy had a straight in approach, he wasn't in alignment with the runway. I think he should have aborted way before he did. There may have been circumstances that occurred that we are not aware of.
preacher1
preacher1 1
More than likely, if he'd have had a straight in approach, he have been lined up and we wouldn't be having this comment thread.
jaymd123
Jason Dopson 1
I think they are fortunate the wing scraped the runway and not the earth on either side. The asphalt/concrete is much more forgiving where with earth/dirt the wing probably would've dug in and caused a lot more yawing.
bingoair
Markus Wolff 1
Take the word "Terrifying" out please.
ssobol
Stefan Sobol 1
Granted the pilot should have aborted the landing as the approach was not atabilized. However, the aircraft was not "heavily damaged". Basically broke the light and scraped the paint. The wing tip is mostly fiberglass and is not a structural part. Couple of days in the shop and back on the line. The video does not give any indication of the wing hitting the ground, there is no sound, bump, or exclamations from the passengers. Pilot probably sweated a bit on the go-around, but also probably didn't think he hit anything.

A number of years ago an engine fell completely off an AA MD80 while in cruise flight. The crew knew the engine stopped operating, but did not know the engine was not present until the control tower at SFO told them after they landed. I don't recall if the engine was ever found. This just illustrates that airplanes are tougher than you might think.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Yes, Peter. It appears on the video that he wasn't struggeling from a crosswind nor visual problems. He cut the base leg way to the left and tried to compansate his final with the ailerons to get himself on track but he was too low...Therefore the "right" wing dipped and created the damage. You know...he knew he screwed up! How can a pilot not know that his or her wingtip hit the runway?
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Noise in the cockpit. Earphones on and probably a lot of concentration on just flying the aircraft. Maybe they knew but what could they do? Fly the airplane!! Who cares about a position light and a little fiberglass? Yes, they screwed up but chose to go around and that was the right choice. What if they tried to keep it on the ground?
preacher1
preacher1 1
In the video shot from the airport, he has the belly cocked up pretty high left, which I am sure that's where the right side wing scrape came from, but he had no choice but to spool up and go around and was real lucky he had time for that. I would defintely have to agree with the concentration point at that time as that would have been just about the time he was having an OH S$%^ moment!!!
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
You are so right! What was he smokin'? There was no Base, No Final...therefore... No Landing!
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Downwind, base and final is for flight schools. Real world is based on this but rarely is the real world textbook.
preacher1
preacher1 1
You are so correct. All anyone needs to do is look at the approach plates for any airport. I guess if you are under 10 grand and VFR that's what you'll want to do or a tower will set you in just to get you into a pattern, but past that it generally don't hold water.lol
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Peter, that's how I learned to fly. The fundementals. Makes sense to me. My Flight Instructor was the Chief Test Pilot of the B-777. I'm not "tooting" my horn but I learned from one of the best.
preacher1
preacher1 1
As he said, it is for the schools and basics. Everybody learns that way. As he said, the real world is based on it as a standard but as you have probably found out yourself, it is not all black and white once you get out there. Congrats on your training. You were fortunate. I notice to, that you made the statement that you "LEARNED". Take it to heart and keep those basics in the back of your mind and freshen them from time to time. No matter how much glass is in your cockpit, you will have to draw on those basics from time to time.
num1tailhooker
It appears that he was drifting from right to left at touchdown. He overcorrected to the right to stay on the runway. The official description is asinine and is without merit. The only fog present was the fog in the cockpit.
distar97
Dennis Harper 1
The white building seen in the video at 2:06 is 800 feet from the center line with that point being 800 feet from the numbers, putting it at 45 degrees. It appears he's coming in at half that angle. Walk the video back on Google Earth further and the approach is insane.
jmilleratp
John Miller 1
Some words for the splendid pilots of said flight: To quote the immortal Mel Brooks, "Just say 'Oops!' and get out!"
gearup328
Peter Steitz 0
John, I think these other pilots have convicted and sentenced without being there and knowing all the facts. How many times have pilots come close and have made it happen? There is a tiny fraction of a second separating the successful from the failures. This crew did, however land with only an incident and everyone walked away. Better luck next time.
jmilleratp
John Miller 1
I was just trying to impart some levity into the situation. Oops!
gearup328
Peter Steitz 0
I know. I just chose your post to comment on the others. This was really just an OOps type of event. Glad no one was hurt.
distar97
Dennis Harper 1
If you want to fly like your landing on a carrier, request an LSO to stand by the numbers and work you in.
toolguy105
toolguy105 1
I've seen worse, unfortunately. There is an MD10-30 formerly belonging to World Airways landed so hard, nose first, at BWI it actually bent the main spar. The pilot got the plane back in the air flew around like this for 20 minutes before making a successful and final landing for that plane. The plane is now property of the Fire Rescue service to practice with.

It is amazing to walk up to the plane and see the ripples in the skin then to look in the wheel well & hell hole and see the actual damage.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Did you see the pictures and comments on the ANA 777 a few weeks ago that porpoised a landing at Narita or someplace over there. There was an AA capain on there that said AA did 2 of them, that it was a design flaw or something in some of the early ones. He said they flat steeled them up the side, certified for 1 landing and takeoff, flew them both direct into Tulsa, torem 'em down and put 'em back in the air in about 30 days. Can't nobody figure out what this guy did. I mean, it's obvious what he did but the why is the unexplained part.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 0
Watch the incredible crosswind landings at the old Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport. Google it. Fly to the checkerboard, turn hard starboard, overshoot and correct back all below about 500 feet. One video shows a 74 actually hitting the outboard port engine on the runway as he still was in a bank at 50 feet. Amazing.
ArthurNetteler
I was in the 734 right seat ONCE into Kai Tak. Got the call after the 1st Officer got sick in Manila. I VOLUNTEERED while on a maintenance layover in Manila to make the Ferry Flight. Actually it was a fun day, things are never as bad/hard as you think they will be...lol..
preacher1
preacher1 1
You could've gone all day without bringing up the checkerboard.LOL. That was actually what this reminded me of and that has been years. That's just one of them things you don't never forget though. I went in there several times as FE and later FO on a 707 but the first time you ever do it it yourself brings a pucker and possibly a brown spot.LOL
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Only had to do it several times and the weather was pretty good. USAF T-39. 1974.
preacher1
preacher1 1
We were in there in the same time frame. I left USAF in early 72 and had about a 2 month break before starting with my guys. Retired in 07. mid 80's they traded that 707 for a 757. real nice 135 gig. Still doing fill in and private work.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I meant retired in 09
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
'03 for me.
preacher1
preacher1 1
We already had mine planned with that age 60 rule, then it changed just before I did but we left it in place. I don't live about 75 miles from KFSM and it's easy to do fill in. That was one good thing about 135 for a company rather than family or open charter. Those guys liked the house on the weekends too.lol. After 24 years and 3 major upgrades on that 757, they bought a brand new 767-200ER(I helped spec it before I left), sent it down to Weber at Denton for mod, and finally got it home middle of last year. Your type covers both those but a checkride/transition for the 67 is required. Normally don't take about 1/2 hr. Me and Dude went clear out to KABQ on an off day. That was nice.lol
gruntusmc
Poor runway alignment. A very elementary mistake and certainly inexcusable.
Bluenote15
I thought passengers were supposed to have all electronic devices turned off during landing! I see examples like this all the time of people taking videos of takeoffs and landings.
In hindsight, it's great to have a video account of what happened in cases like this, otherwise speculation would be prominenet. Maybe they should allow video cameras to be on during takeoffs and landings for this reason. Maybe not. I am not an expert. Just my opinion.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Well, they are supposed to at least in the US, according to the FAA. I think this was in Chile` or someplace down there, and as per another post here, I don't know if those rules apply down there or not.
Bluenote15
Ah yes, that is true. Begs the question why we do not allow it if others do, or why they do if we don't. I still question that whole rule. Thanks for the reply.
crk112
crk112 2
I do too... a camcorder in the passenger cabin has around 0.00001% chance of interfering with anything the flight crew does.
nickpiszczek
Passengers in row 20F with camera phone footage of a botched landing somewhere in South America is not a reliable witness to events in a cockpit. No one here as any clue what may or may not have happened and should reserve judgement lest they find themselves in a similar situation with all the experts. Inop or erroneous navigational equipment readings, maybe he was line up for an opposed runway...who knows... Judge, jury, and executioner does not bode well for anyone in aviation...especially when the report was brought to you by Jesus.
jnavratil
John Navratil 2
I'd sure like to agree with you, but trying to land at a 30-degree angle to the runway is damned hard to explain away, especially in visual conditions. As you say, the camera in 20F doesn't know what happening in the cockpit, but landing wasn't it.
nickpiszczek
No argument there. My point is the reservation of judgements.
Doobs
Dee Lowry 1
Hey...if you walk away from it...it's a good landing.
Wingscrubber
Wingscrubber 1
Ex airforce jet jockey forgot he's in a 737? Should have been flying an IFR approach if conditions were marginal VFR. Either way, the pilot needs some Cessna 172 time, bring him down a notch - looks like he's flying the airplane with his ego, not his brain.
oly720man
I wish reporting like this wasn't so hyped.

It was hardly "terrifying" (disconcerting perhaps) nor was the impact "so harsh".

It wasn't lined up with the runway, as can be seen as the plane flies over the numbers. For whatever reason the left wingtip scraped the runway and there was a go-around.
DaveNeal
David Neal 6
Andrew, Don't know how much you know about aircraft accidents but that amount of damage to a wing is really serious and it could have gone from what you saw to catastrophic in less than a second. This was clearly pilot error. Exceptionally poor pilot judgement and execution.
provri
Rand Huck 1
If I were in that seat, and I saw the center line of the runway outside my window 20 feet above ground and still banking right, I guarantee you I would have been terrified... and then lucky after realizing even after striking the wing we haven't crashed. Although after striking the wing and taking damage I would still be somewhat concerned as to how the second attempt will be, especially with these pilots in command.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
I like your analogy. Like in a post above---Oops! I won't try that again!
laxlover
Stephen Brown 1
Yeah I was looking for a couple spins, a flipover, then a recovery. (Sarcastically)
linbb
linbb 0
Looks more like a crosswind problem didnt have it corrected when they ran out of airspeed. No FLAP damage all aleron and wing tip.
ArthurNetteler
Watch it a couple of times. You will see that he NEVER was on final. It was all a huge right turn, even seconds from touchdown he was STILL truning right. I have NO IDEA what he was doing! This was NOT a Cessna 172!
oowmmr
oowmmr 0
Boy that captain throttled up right in the nick of time saving all of their behinds.
preacher1
preacher1 6
Yeah, he did that, and with a damaged aiplane to boot,and made a successful go around and landing the 2nd time around, BUT, what put him there in the first place??????????
ArthurNetteler
He/She was just not as GOOD as they thought they were. Stupid YES, Professional NO! I have started to see MANY Pilots starting to do stupid things like NO Final Landings & wanting to make the FIRST turnoff! I watched an AA Pilot in LAX actually slide the mains trying to make the next turnoff....That is STUPID!

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preacher1
preacher1 1
You are exactly right. Look at one of the clips linked in down here below that was shot from the obsrvation deck. You really can't see the approach but about half way thru the clip, the plane comes up out of nowhere at about a 45dregee to startbord, just before the spool up and go round

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preacher1
preacher1 1
Both them first 2 were contaminated runways, among other things. I lost 4 good friends on that AA at KLIT. Been awhile back but he landed in wx and if I remember correctly, among other things they forgot to engage speed brakes. That may have helped him but the main thing was that they said he just overshot the runway. I think the Southwest at Midway was ice or snow pack on the runway.

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preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, I guess in some cases you gotta make a Winnebago perform like a vette but in most cases, that old saying about "No old, bold, pilots" comes to mind. I did not know that AA crew. There was a tour group from Russellvile that my bunch was with
gdevery
geoff devery 0
joe nettler.....wow... you are so good at talk.... A hole
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
I have worked on A/C with more damage than this... I think this can be totally considered pilot error, However, I feel the article title is way to harsh... I do not see it as being that Terrifying.. I did not hear any screams from other passengers or anything like that, the plane did not jump, surge or anything as a result of the impact and I would venture to say the crew never new or felt anything until they got on the ground. I wonder if they declared an emergency.
sbartelski
Interesting that the pax was using an electronic device below 10,00ft, or is it only the FAA that prohibits this? And why did he know to do this, was he expecting trouble?
stephenlau
Stephen Lau 5
a lot of people film landing and take offs from the window -_-
stephenlau
Stephen Lau 3
a lot of people film landing and take offs from the window -_-
Isha
Isia Maria 3
I've often filmed landings and takeoffs.
russianaviator
russianaviator -1
ive been in an aircraft with one engine on full power while the other one was a dead weight. We got on the ground but it took 2 passes just like this one

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preacher1
preacher1 2
Got to agree
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Yep. Every PC checkride for a 2 engine A/C has a single engine approach and landing. Also a single engine missed. Actually, a go around (missed) is briefed as a normal conclusion for every approach. It was common for your SE approach to be very normal until short, short final and the checkairman would put a vehicle on the runway. Off you go!
ArthurNetteler
Did your initial approach look like this?? I bet it didn't!
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp -9
Im gonna guess without reading.......Ryanair?
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp 3
My apologies to Ryanair!
Finniek
Glad you apologized Sir! I'm no Ryanair apologist but I use them a lot and they have got me many many places I couldn't otherwise have afforded to go
AccessAir
AccessAir -5
That was the most lame video I have ewer seen.....
Doobs
Dee Lowry -3
When the Inflight Crew goes away to prepare for landing and sit in their "jumpseat"... the passengers will play...it's out of their control! The Inflight Crew were not trained to be "BabySitters"!

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